JIM WELLER wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

I read an article once that said if you're concerned about sprayed
on pesticides but short of money go organic for things like apples
where you eat the skin but don't bother for oranges or bananas you
throw away the peel.

That's very true. My parents have practiced organic gardening for years
(they are both certified master gardeners) and they have to use Roundup now and again. But for their trees, my mom uses certain oils that allow the
fruit to remain safe to eat right off the tree after rinsing but this is on
a small scale. It'd be too cost-ineffective to do that on a large scale.

The only thing with oranges is that you do use orange peel for cooking so
I'd look for oranges that weren't sprayed with pesticide (that does not make them "organic" though).

For fun, here's the official USDA list of standards of being labelled "organic" in the US: https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/organic-standards

It's a long, dry read but it's an interesting one (to me, at least).

Another USENET recipe (I do like that collection):

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Title: Grammy's Dark Rolls
Categories: Breads, Holiday, Usenet
Yield: 1 Dozen

1/2 c Oatmeal (rolled oats)
1/2 c Whole wheat flour
1/8 ts Salt
1/4 c Shortening
2 tb Molasses
2 tb Honey
1 c Water, boiling
1/2 c Water, warm
1/2 oz Yeast (dry), active
-(2 packages; do not
-use quick-rising yeast)
1 ts Honey
1 Egg
2 1/2 c Flour, unbleached
-(up to 3 1/2 C)

Combine oatmeal, whole-wheat flour, salt, shortening, molasses and
honey. Pour boiling water over all. Mix and let cool.

While cooling, dissolve yeast in warm water with the honey. Add egg to
cooled batter, then mix in dissolved yeast.

Add flour until dough is just soft enough to knead. Knead lightly.
Place dough in a greased bowl; cover with a damp cloth. Let rise in
warm place until doubled in bulk; about one hour.

Punch down dough and cut into 12 equal pieces. Shape each piece into
a ball in put into a greased 9-inch pan. Let rise again for 45
minutes.

Bake in a preheated oven at 350 degrees F. for 40 minutes.

NOTES:

* Holiday rolls with oatmeal and molasses -- This recipe has long
been part of my Thanksgiving tradition. I have long since forgotten
its source.

* These rolls are really wonderful, but they need time to rise.
start them as early in the day as possible. Don't even think about
using the quick-rise yeasts.

: Difficulty: easy to moderate.
: Time: several hours preparation, 1 hour baking and cooling.
: Precision: measure the ingredients.

: Marilyn Kushner
: Microlab, University of California, Berkeley, California, USA
: Marilyn@merlin.berkeley.edu

: Copyright (C) 1986 USENET Community Trust

From Gemini's MASSIVE MealMaster collection at www.synapse.com/~gemini

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--Sean


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On 08-07-21 21:56, Jim Weller <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Best Supermarket <=-

Organic foods are pretty much a scam.

I agree with both of you. I do not buy organic fruits and vegetables unless there is no other choice. (In some of our markets, organic is

I read an article once that said if you're concerned about sprayed
on pesticides but short of money go organic for things like apples
where you eat the skin but don't bother for oranges or bananas you
throw away the peel.

Which is one reason why I refuse to pay the premium for organic bananas.
For me now, it is not about being short of money, but more to our
starting out in times when we were very short of money. As a married
college student, we learned to be frugal (distinct from cheap). Those
habits persist to some degree in our choices to this day.

This sounds sort of like a rubin for those who do not like sauerkraut.

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Title: Swiss & Beef Melts
Categories: Sandwich, Beef, Cheese
Yield: 4 servings

4 oz Corned beef
2 md Onions, sweet
2 oz Cheese, swiss, grated
1 tb Butter
Rye bread OR
English muffins

Directions:

Melt the butter in a one quart sauce pan or frying pan. Add the
onion and saute until the onion is translucent.

Add the corned beef and heat over medium heat until the meat is
loose and begins to slightly dry.

Add half of the swiss cheese to the onion, meat mixture and heat
until the cheese melts.

Spread the hot mixture onto slices of rye bread, or English
muffin; top with a layer of grated swiss cheese, then broil until the
cheese melts and begins to bubble slightly.

Serve while hot.

Servings:

Depending on how thick you cover the bread or muffin this recipe
can give up to eight individual servings, or as few as four.

From: Rob Stewart Date: 07 May 94

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Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-

Organic foods are pretty much a scam.

I agree with both of you. I do not buy organic fruits and vegetables unless there is no other choice. (In some of our markets, organic is

I agree with you both. I think it was Michael who got me going on saying that "I buy inorganic food".

This sounds sort of like a rubin for those who do not like sauerkraut.

I'm not wild about sauerkraut, I'll eat it on rare occasions. So I'd probably like it. Often I'll order a Patty Melt.

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Title: Breakfast Tacos
Categories: Main dish, Breakfast
Yield: 1 Serving

2 sl Bacon, cut into 1/2 inch
-dice
1 ea Generous handful frozen hash
-browns (or one very small
-cooked potato, grated)
1 T Finely chopped onion
2 ea Eggs, beaten
2 T Cheese Whiz, or a slice of
-cheddar or other simliar
-cheese, cut into chunks
1 ea Salt, pepper to taste
3 ea Flour tortillas, heated

Fry bacon in a small pan until all of the fat is rendered, and the
bacon is crisp. Remove from the pan, and set aside. Drain off all
but about 1 Tbsp. of the bacon fat.

Toss the potato and onion into the pan, and cook, stirring
occasionally, until the potatoes are nicely browned.

Pour the eggs over the potatoes, and cook, stirring until nearly set.
Toss in the cheese and reserved bacon, and stir.

Scoop into warm tortillas, roll, and chow down.

This was my dinner last night (Wes had something else), and I enjoyed
it thoroughly. Note: I added a generous proportion of hot salsa,
plus a shot of jalapeno Tabasco Sauce to mine. Others might want to
be more cautious ;-)

Author unknown, as this was before I started keeping track, but it
sure looks like Kathy Pitts, doesn't it? U/L to Cooking again by
Burt Ford. 4/95

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Hi Bill,

I agree with you both. I think it was Michael who got
me going on saying that "I buy inorganic food".

Unfortuately, organic food in the US is a scam unless you grow it yourself.

I'm still working on assimilating your recipes. I am switching my personal computer over to FreeBSD. I like it a lot; moreso than Linux.

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Title: Steak and Pepper Melt
Categories: Sandwich
Yield: 2 Servings

1 tb Margarine or butter
2 Red bell pepper rings
2 Green bell pepper rings
1 sm Onion; sliced, separated
-into rings
2 Frozen sliced sandwich
-steaks
2 sl Monterey Jack; 1-oz each
2 Kaiser rolls; split

Melt margarine in large skillet over medium heat. Add bell pepper and
onion rings; cook and stir until crisp-tender. Remove vegetables from
skillet, cook sandwich steaks as directed on package. Fold each steak
in half crosswise. Top each folded steak with cheese slice. Cover
skillet; cook over low heat until cheese is melted.

Place steaks on bottom halves of rolls; top with pepper and onion
rings and top halves of rolls.

CALORIES: 510 SODIUM: 580MG

CHOLESTEROL: 70MG FAT: 33G

CARBOHYDRATE: 34G SAT: 13G

From <Meals In Minutes>, a Pillsbury Classic Cookbook. Downloaded
from Glen's MM Recipe Archive, http://www.erols.com/hosey.

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